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Not to mention the proclamations that with Obama in office gas would be over $10 per gallon?

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[sign in to see URL] all you want about the candidates this year but do NOT try to justify the crapfest we just sat through for the last 8 years. How'd that "voting a younger guy into office because we just NEED young blood" move go, huh? Sorry but we are no better off now than we were before he took office and, despite the government's manipulating of the numbers, in many ways we are far worse off.

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Thats crap and you know it, he did pretty well considering a total lack of cooperation from the right. So the gov is making up numbers? How Trumpish, job number a lies, housing market a lie, record stock market a lie, 17 straight months of job growth a lie, YOU LIE!!! C'mon emoticon
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Don't confuse her with facts emoticon
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I didn't say "making up" I said MANIPULATING. There's a difference. And if you don't believe that the government skews the numbers to make things look better than they really are, then I feel sorry for you. I don't need anyone else to tell me this is [sign in to see URL] just need to look at the people in my own family (including myself) still struggling to find jobs, make ends meet, get health insurance, put food on the table, etc. Please don't try and tell me that things are better. That statement is the bullshit in all this, whether you want to believe it or not.

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The numbers are manipulated by both sides, agreed. But some facts are incontrovertible such as the price of gas, the demise of bin Laden and the fact that people who previously had no access to healthcare can now get it.
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If the numbers were so manipulated FOX would be on a crusade.
Are record car sales a gov figure? And Im sorry you have to prove it to me you cant afford health care, I was on my ex's family plan that was $160 a WEEK, having employer heath plan isnt always such a deal. Imm paying $45 a month under the so called obamacare, I know now your going to say NJ screws you but Id love to hear a price quote.
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I'm finally covered for the first time in over 15 years because New Jersey finally expanded their Medicaid coverage. Only way I could afford it. Even the lowest tier of Obamacare was outside my range. So please don't paint it as the great solution for everyone. It may have worked for some people but not [sign in to see URL] by a long freaking shot. And making people who don't have the money to afford health insurance pay a fine is just beyond asinine. Again, don't have to look outside my own personal circle of family and friends to find plenty of people who were screwed by Obamacare. So if you want to list his "achievements"...try again. emoticon

Oh and the price of gas would have come down eventually regardless of who was in office. And the demise of bin Laden had nothing to do with Obama. Again, that was going to happen regardless of who was sitting in the Oval Office.

Still waiting to hear something positive that he's ACTUALLY responsible for.

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You have healthcare but its somehow not a result of Obama? The expansion of medicaid was part of his program but it was up to the states to participate, blame Christy. We would have gotten Bin Laden eventually? Says who? Was he gonna turn himself in? Bush didnt even try. You cant even give credit for that??? How about saving the auto industry and millions of jobs?
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Bush is out. Strains of "Another One Bites The Dust" echo in my ears. Can Carson and Kasich be far behind? Then it will just be the unholy trinity.
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